мышка Машка писал(а):
Я думаю, это просто разные круги
Средний 401k по стране видели?
Average 401(k) Balance by Age (2025 Data)
25-34: $42,640
35-44: $103,552
45-54: $188,643
55-64: $271,320
65 and older: $299,442
Median 401(k) Balance by Age (2025 Data)
25-34: $16,255
35-44: $39,958
45-54: $67,796
55-64: $95,642
65 and older: $95,425
Далеко не бохато.
Но давайте про обеспеченных пенсионеров. Вокруг меня (хороший район, дома 1+ ) живут 3-4 пары 65+ и выше. Абсолютно все работают на полную ставку. Все уже выплачено и куплено. Еесть дети и внуки, их поднимают. Пенсия в америке это фантастика!
зато в Европе сплошные богачи! почитайте, например, germany.ru .
А почему именно 65? пенсия нонче с 67.
Я играю в пиклбол в комьюнити центре, много пенсионеров, и нет, не работают
мышка Машка писал(а):
зато в Европе сплошные богачи! почитайте, например, germany.ru .
Не скажу за немецию, но жить пенсионером во франции существенно дешевле чем в америке. Просто по расходам:
In France, the cost of staying home averaged €1,260 per month in 2024, covering essentials like home care, medical equipment, and meal delivery. This marks a 3.65% increase from 2023. By comparison, aging in place in the U.S. carries an average monthly cost of $4,500 for home care alone, according to Genworth Financial. That’s without factoring in additional services like meal deliveries or home modifications, which can add thousands more.
Assisted living is an alternative for seniors who can no longer live independently, but it’s costly in both countries. In France, the average EHPAD (nursing home) cost was €2,310 per month per person in 2023. In the U.S., assisted living facilities cost a staggering $4,500 to $8,000 per month, depending on location and services. Whereas the price skyrockets for those requiring more intensive care, with nursing homes averaging $9,000 to $10,000 per month.
мышка Машка писал(а):
зато в Европе сплошные богачи! почитайте, например, germany.ru .
Не скажу за немецию, но жить пенсионером во франции существенно дешевле чем в америке. Просто по расходам:
In France, the cost of staying home averaged €1,260 per month in 2024, covering essentials like home care, medical equipment, and meal delivery. This marks a 3.65% increase from 2023. By comparison, aging in place in the U.S. carries an average monthly cost of $4,500 for home care alone, according to Genworth Financial. That’s without factoring in additional services like meal deliveries or home modifications, which can add thousands more.
Assisted living is an alternative for seniors who can no longer live independently, but it’s costly in both countries. In France, the average EHPAD (nursing home) cost was €2,310 per month per person in 2023. In the U.S., assisted living facilities cost a staggering $4,500 to $8,000 per month, depending on location and services. Whereas the price skyrockets for those requiring more intensive care, with nursing homes averaging $9,000 to $10,000 per month.